“Buhari Will Live to See the Misfortune of all His Enemies”, Ibadan Prophet Predicts

. Says Bishops have misled Jonathan

Prophet Wale Olagunju, the Presiding Bishop of The Seed of God Chapel, Sasa, Ibadan is one man many people take serious because of his predictions that have come to pass over the years. Prophet Olagunju is a man who never hides his disdain for corruption in any form. In 2007, he issued a warning that the People’s Democratic Party was fielding a “sick’ candidate. He also predicted that the former President, Chief Obasanjo would “soon realize that Yar’ Adua is a bad investment”. In the heat of the then President’s sickness, while Bishops were praying for Alhaji Yar’ Adua’s recovery, Olagunju had already stated that Dr. Jonathan should be sworn in as President because Yar’ Adua was going to die.He also predicted the death of the late Strongman of Ibadan Politics, High Chief Adedibu, warning the old politician to "put his house in order" because his time was up.

In an interview with The Anchor Online’s WOLE ADEJUMO, Prophet Olagunju restated his prediction that General Buhari will win the election, he also took time to allay fears, especially the ones that came after an advertorial bordering on the health of Gen. Buhari. He pointed out that Buhari will not die in office but will live to see the misfortune of his enemies. He also took a swipe at some Nigerian Bishops and Pastors who he said have misled the President. Excerpts:

Sometime last year, you led a group of pastors to call for the impeachment of President Goodluck Jonathan, why did you do that?

President Goodluck Jonathan has not ruled Nigeria well. There is massive corruption going on under his administration. The Concerned Pastors and Prophets of God met in Ibadan and discussed the situation. We concluded that the man has to leave the place. But unfortunately, we discovered that the present members of the National Assembly were too soft. They closed their eyes to all the mess that is going on in our nation. We had no choice than to tell them why don’t you impeach this man and let him get out of that place? And should they impeach Jonathan, heaven would not fall.

But the Christian Association of Nigeria seems to have a different point of view. The CAN President is usually with the President of Nigeria and they go along well. So how does it make you feel, calling for the impeachment of the President while CAN is saying something else?

I stated it in one of my write ups some time ago that Pastor Ayo Oristejafor has become the campaign manager for Jonathan 2015, he has lost focus completely. Look at the CAN he is running now. You cannot compare this CAN with that of Akinola and Olubunmi Okogie. There is divided loyalty. Why should a CAN President who Nigerian Christians are looking up to as the Pope of Nigeria be so biased and allow religious and tribal sentiments to blindfold his reasoning? They have divided CAN and the Christian community. Ayo Oritsejafor and others are supporting President Jonathan.

Right, they have the choice to support whoever they like but why should they allow religious and tribal sentiments to break the country? There is a CD, a pastor, used the Redeemed Christian Church of God’s platform to blackmail many Nigerian leaders, saying they want to Islamize Nigeria and the pastors of the church could not even say anything . They said the constitution was based on sharia or Islamic law, was there no Christian there when they were drafting it? Instead of them to sit down and ask themselves, how are we going to do this thing? They resorted to propagating mess, dividing the country along religious and tribal sentiments.

They showed Jonathan to us as a Christian, a man who eloped with Witches and Wizards’ Association of Nigeria, a man who called Alfas from Senegal to come and pray for him and his government. What does light have in common with darkness? So, I disagree with Oritsejafor and other Christians that are saying Jonathan is a Christian. He is not a Christian, Jonathan is an unbeliever. Those pastors supporting him have lost focus; they are not rooted in the Bible. If their focus had been the Bible, they would have reasoned together that this man is not a Christian. Is it not the same sin that King Saul committed that God broke his kingdom into pieces? Ayo Oritsejafor was one of the pastors who said they should remove fuel subsidy and Nigerians are still suffering. Okay, look at it, they took the President to Jerusalem, with three thousand pastors to go and pray for him, they anointed him there. When they came back, Jonathan came out of the plane; a whole Bishop was following him as if he is a Personal Assistant to Jonathan. Can you now see that they have lost focus? Are you now telling me that those pastors that took him to Jerusalem can come out boldly and say Jonathan will not win?

What is the sin of all the prophets in the Bible? It is so simple, their failure to close eyes to all forms of corruption and injustice. Their unalloyed stand on integrity and their constant feelings for the poor masses. In our own dispensation, we have pulpit men who maintain sinful silence in the face of tyranny and failed in their responsibility to tell those in power the gospel truth.

Is it right for pastors to meddle in politics?

Well, as pastors, we are agents of peace. During the time of Cardinal Olubunmi Okogie and Bishop Akinola, they separated politics from religion. When they discovered that the president, governor or any other official was misbehaving, they would come in, mediate and show them the way. But the current Christians in Nigeria have involved themselves deeply in politics to the extent that they are even campaigning in their churches. Not only that, they are campaigning in their churches for Jonathan, they hate the Muslims. I heard there are offices for pastors in Aso Rock, what are they doing there? Why should pastors have offices at Aso Rock? They now do more of politics than the preaching they should do on the pulpit.

In Enugu State now, I think we have a Bishop as the Deputy Governor, maybe very soon we will have a Pastor as the President of Nigeria and he will be addressed as His Excellency, Pastor so and so. In my own view, they are not supposed to do that because the Bible says “my government is not of this world”. We are just to preach the gospel in a peaceful atmosphere.

Let’s come to your 2015 predictions sir, from what God revealed to you, who will be Nigeria’s next president?

(cuts in) Buhari, no controversy. If you look at my 2015 predictions, numbers 4 and 5, the Lord said they will humiliate Jonathan, they will destroy his billboards, they will insult him, all those ones have come to pass. When you go to number 45, it says corrupt politicians will gang up against Buhari. That is what we are witnessing today. In 2003, 2007, 2011, the Lord revealed to me that Buhari would not win the election and it was published. But it is the same God that revealed to me that Buhari is the next President of Nigeria, so as to execute His fierce judgment against those corrupt politicians.

Forget about the propaganda that he has no certificate, it just politics. Let me also tell you, Buhari’s votes will supersede the votes Abiola got in 1993.

A publication came out recently making people to ask themselves about General Buhari’s health status, especially one sponsored by the Governor of Ekiti State. What do you think would happen if the retired General wins and he is not healthy?

Let Buhari have Ebola, God forbid, not to talk of HIV, when we get to the river, we will know how to cross it. Buhari will not die there as revealed to me. Even if he has Ebola, we have the Almighty God that will remove the disease so that the people of the North will not face the same fate they faced over Yar’ Adua.

Our God shall close every gate of death open for Buhari and the APC leadership and put to shame those sacred witchcraft advisers called Bishops.

Everything is propaganda. Don’t mind Ayodele Fayose. He doesn’t know what he is doing. How can you place the obituary of a living person? It is a taboo in Ekiti State where I come from. Fayose has spiritual problems. This is a man that told people in Ekiti State that he is born again. I told some of them that Fayose is not born again. That advert can cause chaos; he needs to be spoken to.

I want to assure you, as God Almighty revealed to me, Buhari will live to see the misfortune of all his enemies. And let me tell you, I am the President of Concerned Prophets and Pastors of God in Nigeria, we are praying for Buhari, and we want change. That was what they did to Baba Awolowo, another person now came up and they are blackmailing him, they said he doesn’t have a certificate, he doesn’t have this, he doesn’t have that, they said he is a dictator, but whatever they say, I want to assure you, Buhari will win the election. And should they fail to give it to him, Nigeria will go back to the days of Abiola in 1993 and there will be problems in the country.

And now there are allegations that he does not have the certificate he claims to have and as such might not be qualified. And even when he presented the result, some people alleged the paper was forged.

The former President, Court of Appeal, Justice Abdullahi said they sat for their WAEC the same time. You see, PDP is now jittery. They are trying to do everything to discourage that man. Even if Buhari doesn’t have Primary 6 certificate, not to talk of School Cert, Nigerians will vote for him. Okay, they are saying Buhari doesn’t have certificate so as to disqualify him, isn’t it? But between a man who has no school cert and another one who has a PhD but cannot differentiate between transparency and corruption, a man who told us that stealing is not corruption. A PhD holder is now dividing the country along religious and ethnic lines.

Buhari will stop Boko Haram. I am not happy the way they are shedding the blood of Christians and Muslims in the North under the present government every day. Buhari will stop Boko Haram just as he did to Maitasine and he will bring this inflation down. PDP is jittery; they know they have lost the presidential election; that is why they are bringing all these up. If they know Buhari does not have a certificate, let them go court. Instead of them to discuss what they will offer Nigerians and tell us their programmes; they are just chasing Buhari and APC up and down. In all their campaigns now, it is either they are insulting Obasanjo, insulting Yoruba leaders. They have failed already; it means they don’t have any programme for Nigerians.

Talking about the Ekiti State Governor now, in your predictions, you said he would have problems and may not finish his tenure, but Governor Fayose seems to have established himself in Ekiti now, he is giving Ekiti people stomach infrastructure, he has just paid salaries, the people seem to be enjoying him contrary to what your prediction says.

Ayo Fayose will not complete his tenure, as revealed to me. Look at the way he is behaving now. Are you saying if APC wins the election, they will leave him there? The ground has been prepared already, you don’t even need anybody to come and tell you. The fulfillment of the prophecy is on ground. Look at his utterances, look at the way he behaves, the Governor of my own state behaving like that? In fact I am disturbed. How can he say somebody will die in office? He is just plunging the state into another crisis. He will not complete his tenure that was what I saw.

In 2003, before the Americans did, you predicted that Nigeria will break into 4 or 5 countries. But lately, some men of God have been saying Nigeria will not break. What is your opinion?

First and foremost, I, Wale Olagunju, believe in the unity of the Nigerian nation. I have many important friends who are Ibos and Hausas and we relate with each other freely and I believe God loves Nigeria that’s why he brought us together. Yes, the Lord revealed to me in 2003, 2004 and in 2005 that Nigeria will break. Looking at the way the politicians are doing things, Asari Dokubo is saying if Jonathan doesn’t win the election, there will be war. The Igbos have gone to court, they want to pull out, Meanwhile, a former Governor of Kaduna State said if they don’t allow a Hausa man become president, they will break the country.   

You can see the sign; you can see that President Jonathan is ruling over a divided nation. He marginalized Yoruba people as if the South South and South East are the only ones that own Nigeria, forgetting that he was put there by a Yoruba man. So the country has already broken up spiritually. The Igbos want to go, the South South wants to go, the Hausas want to go, leaving Yoruba people as the only ones saying there should be one united Nigeria.

I love Nigeria to remain one, I don’t want a situation where I will want to go and greet my friend in Igbo land or in the North and they will tell me to go and queue for visa. I don’t like that. That is why I am saying Buhari.

You just spoke of marginalization of the Yorubas by President Goodluck Jonathan. But when the President came to Ibadan, Dr. Mimiko, the Governor of Ondo State was there, notable Yoruba politicians were there and they have promised that Yorubaland is for Goodluck Jonathan…

(Cuts in) Yorubaland is not for Goodluck Jonathan. It can’t be so. They are on their own. When you look at my prophecy in 2009, 2010 and 2011, I said Mimiko will decamp to PDP and now he is in PDP. I said PDP would lose Ondo State, two thirds of the PDP members there decamped to APC recently. I want to tell you that Jonathan will not win in Yoruba States. The reason is this; this is a President who called Yoruba rascals. He marginalized Yorubaland, he insulted Obasanjo anyhow. He called him a tout, he wrote a silly letter, when he was at Mapo Hall the other day; he described Afenifere leaders as hypocrites. How do you expect me to support such a man? A man who is insulting my leaders and the generality of the Yorubas. Are you saying Ogun people will vote for Jonathan who insulted their own son? Who knows Jonathan, if not because of Obasanjo? Jonathan’s government crumbled the day he insulted Obasanjo. A man who single handedly picked you up, a man who campaigned for you all over Nigeria. Where was Edwin Clark, where was Asari Dokubo? Today, you hate this man.

You stripped him naked publicly, you are now calling Pastor Adeboye and Bishop Oyedepo to come and beg him. Beg Obasanjo for what? All these things just amaze me. Don’t they read their Bibles? The Bible says whosoever repays good with evil, evil shall never depart from his house. Some Yorubas who are looking for what they will eat are now supporting him. How can you support a man who is scandalizing your race? He can’t win, I stand to be quoted.

But to some people, the insults on Obasanjo might just be a way he is reaping the rewards of his own deeds.  

Even if Obasanjo is the devil incarnate, is it right to disrespect elders in Yorubaland? Does the Yoruba culture support that? In Ekiti State, omo kekere ko ba r’agbalagba fin a je ‘gba (any child that disrespects elders will be flogged). Our culture forbids all those things.

Do you remember what happened during the time of Zik and Okadigbo? Ookadigbo was insulting Zik then. He said ex this ex that. Zik told him, ‘one day you will become ex this, ex that’. Anyone that disrespects elders is just trying to shorten his life. Even the Almighty God said “I will give honour to those who honour me”. That respect must be there, Yorubas cherish respects so much, If Obasanjo is reaping what he has sown, that remains between Obasanjo and God, not for us to judge. Most of the PDP Governors today, Obasanjo put them there, including Jonathan. But I warned Obasanjo then in my prophecy that he would realize at the end of the day that ‘Yar’Adua and Jonathan ticket is a very bad investment’. Look at it today.

You seem to like Chief Obasanjo so much.

He is just like Baba Awolowo, very bold. He is a leader who knows the way, leads the way and shows the way. It’s not only Obasanjo, any leader that is upright. Obasanjo might have his own faults, I am not defending him. But he is a leader. Ah! Obasanjo, patriot of a nation. Just like Tinubu now, look at Buhari.

I have plans to write books on these men, Obasanjo, Tinubu, Buhari and Pastor Kumuyi. They are leaders. Pastor Kumuyi is my idol, politicians cannot be carrying him like other pastors. He is so focused, that is the type of leader I want to associate myself with.

How do you expect me to support a leader that will tell you he did not sign an agreement and at the end of the day, you will find out that he signed an agreement?  The Bible says “ye shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free”.

But Ashiwaju Tinubu has been alleged to be corrupt in some places.

How many of these leaders are not corrupt? The President of our country, a so called Christian came out the other time and said what Jim Nwobodo stole is not up to the cost of a Volkswagen Beetle. We need somebody who will step on toes to remove corruption in Nigeria. It is when he leaves office that he will realize that those who surrounded him are the ones that grounded this country.

Look at the cash for arms deal, when I prayed, God told me Jonathan doesn’t know anything about it. If I had my way, I would have removed Ayo Oritsejafor as CAN President, Christian Welfare Chairman, I would have removed him too and I would have probed both of them.

Jonathan might have good intentions for Nigeria but look at the way they grounded the country because of corruption. They are just hiding under him to siphon money.

They are all so corrupt; see them all buying jets now.  You cannot even differentiate between a politician and a pastor. See what they turned Nigeria into. The country is in a sorry state.  As far as I am concerned, the Bible is against corruption. It really amazes me to see Bishops supporting corruption in our country today. As for me, I hate corruption, either physical or spiritual.

A lot of prophets and senior pastors seem to favour President Goodluck Jonathan, why is your own prediction different?

 Number one is that they have allowed religious sentiments to blindfold their reasoning. I don’t read other peoples prophecies and I always stand by my prophecies. If you look at the way things are going, 70% of those who are supporting him are either from the South East. They believe in one thing, they are using human reasoning, they believe it will be very difficult to defeat the incumbent. And they look at Jonathan as a Christian and at least majority of the so called Christians are supporting him. Jonathan is not a Christian, in my own Biblical view because I believe light and darkness have nothing in common. I am not condemning their own prophecies because I don’t know the source; I only know the source of mine. I know my prophecy came from the Living God. And the Bible says by their fruits we shall know them. February 14 is getting nearer. After the election, Nigerians will know the true prophet.

They allowed religious sentiments and tribal sentiments to blindfold them; it is not prophecy per se. Some of them don’t even know what is called prophecy. A true prophet of God must align with God and his people. It really amazes me how Nigerian pastors are supporting illegality. Look at what is happening in Nigeria, Jonathan grounded everything and you are saying Jonathan should come back, to come and do what?

You said you don’t know the source of some prophecies. What do you think would make two prophets stand and prophesy two different things?

That is what I am saying that they have allowed religious and tribal sentiments to darken their reasoning. They just assume, that is their own prophecy. Nigerians don’t even know true prophets of God. Somebody will just come out and say “I prophesy, Jonathan is the next President”. That is not prophecy. The Lord will speak with you. A prophet is a person who sees yesterday, today and the future.

When you look at my prophecies, since 2001 to date, you will discover consistency in them. Numbers 4, 5 and 6 of 2015 says they will humiliate Jonathan in the North, they will destroy his billboard, they will assault him. Those things have happened and when you come to 45 or 46, it says the corrupt politicians will gang up to blackmail Buhari, it has come to pass. That is prophecy.

 In Nigeria today, we have many prophets. I was at one mountain some time ago. While conducting the programme, the Pastor was just saying ‘yes, I heard the voice of God, the Lord spoke’ I thought the Lord spoke until I heard the Pastor saying ‘yes, I see many people want to travel abroad, many people who have abandoned properties, come out. Go and give me one tenth of the ticket charges’. Is that a prophecy? Some of the prophets are into occultism, they are not prophets. A prophet who has 3 or 4 wives, can you call that one a prophet of God?

In 2008, I predicted that Yar’ Adua would die; Tribune and some other papers in Lagos published it. A notable prophet in Lagos came out and insulted me. He said they should just ignore that man in Ibadan. Some journalists came here and I told them I had nothing to say than that I stand by my prophecy. Eventually, Yar’ Adua died, journalists asked him that ‘but you said Olagunju’s prophecy should be ignored’. He said they came to him and he prayed for him. I now told them I had seven opportunities because I was invited to Abuja to come and pray for Yar’ Adua but I discovered the Lord said I should not go. The Lord revealed to me that while some of these prophets were praying for Yar’ Adua’s healing; some were secretly anointing Jonathan to become the President of Nigeria. How can I lump myself with that type of pastors? Nigerian bishops have become businessmen.  

The fact remains that it is not Dokubo or Ateke Tom, or even Jonathan that is the problem of Nigeria. It is these so called witchcraft advisers called pastors. They manipulate the President and the nation through their modern day witchcraft. They are the problem of this country. They have aligned with Jonathan now. As God would have it, they picked Osinbajo, a Paastor of the Redeemed Christian Church of God as Buhari’s running mate and they are blackmailing him that APC is a Muslim party. Are they not the ones that were saying this? They made CDs, wrote books, why should that be? We are agents of peace, not agents of destruction. If Nigeria has a problem today, it is the so called men of God that are causing the problem and we have not even searched to say where is this problem coming from?

Why should they support Jonathan? Instead of them to distance themselves so that we can speak with one voice. How many of them can condemn Jonathan now? I heard Father Mbaka the other time. This is Mbaka who said Jonathan should go. How can he say so? Two years ago, he was praising Jonathan to high heavens. He even caused his enemies just like they are doing today. He now came up to say Jonathan should go. Why should he say that? Whosoever dines with the devil is a friend of the devil. If Jonathan should release the names of the pastors that are dining and wining with him, Nigerians will cry. They have benefitted from this government that is why they don’t have the mouth to condemn him.  

I had opportunities to meet President Jonathan. In 2011, they sent for me to be his coordinator in the state here. I told them I was not interested. So that is just the point, they are the problem.  If we stand aside as men of God, we will hear the voice of God for our nation.

They said Buhari wants to Islamize Nigeria. I disagree completely. The useless pastors and politicians took a step that portrayed Buhari as a religious fundamentalist. Is it now under a democratic government that he will cause the Islamization of our nations?

The fact remains that rogues are seriously against him and the looters are also being deceived, just like they did to Pa Awolowo. This I know for sure that if we miss this great chance, we might never get deliverance again.  

So, did God show you whether Nigeria would be Islamized or not?

I didn’t receive that prophecy. The Almighty God just told me that Nigeria would break but I don’t know the date. But the issue of Islamization of Nigeria is a pure lie. It is the evil machination of some pastors.  They said Turkey; are we Turkey? This is Nigeria, not Turkey.

I spoke with some Redeemed Christian Church of God pastors who are my friends, I said ‘where are you going o?’ They said it is Buhari. And when they asked me, I told them the last time I voted was around 1979 but this time, I have mandated my family, we are all going to vote for Buhari.

I am not supporting Buhari because I want him to Islamize Nigeria or because he is a sickler or because he is a retired General or because I want Osinbajo to become Nigeria’s president later. No, it is based on two principles, one, the Lord revealed to me he is the next president and that he will carry out His judgment against the wicked people. Two, I believe that he can do better. There is no light, he will fix the light, he will fix many roads. In the time of Buhari, I am a living witness, a bag of rice was just N 100 then compared to N 10, 000 under this government. In Abacha’s time it was N 2, 300. During the time of Buhari, I would just drive my Volkswagen Beetle to the fuel station and give them N 50, they will fill up my tank. So I know he will do well by God’s grace.

I want to assure you that Buhari will not die and he will get there because I and the Concerned Prophets and Pastors of God in Nigeria, we are praying seriously, I just came back from the mountain now, as soon as we leave here now, I am going back. We are on the mountain, praying for Nigeria and for General Buhari.

My question is this, Jonathan and the so called Bishops supporting him and his re-election bid, are they being sincere about the oneness of Nigeria? If yes, what is their stand? Are they not part of those using religious card, political and tribal labels to cause confusion in the country?

All these heartless and corrupt Bishops and politicians have successfully beclouded our conscience with foolish religious and ethnic sentiments.

You spoke on Father Mbaka, he supported President Jonathan till October and on December 31, he changed gear. Couldn’t it have been that he heard from God?

He didn’t hear from God.  He saw that there is change coming (laughs).

But look at it this way sir, years back, before a general election, you predicted that Buhari was wasting time by contesting that year. Now you are the same person predicting that Buhari would be the president.  Couldn’t Father Mbaka’s case have been the same?

My prophecy came out even before Buhari emerged as the candidate of the APC. Look at the difference. When you look at my prophecy for 2015, the Lord God Almighty revealed all the sins of President Jonathan and God picked Buhari to execute His judgment on corrupt Nigerian leaders. You can see there is a difference and there is no one, anywhere in Nigeria that can say I am wining and dining with the government of the day. I don’t do that.

I try my best to correct all these things that are going on in the Presidential Villa, I rolled out many prophecies, I did many things to tell the President that these people will spoil your government but all to no avail. So, it is not as if I was dining and wining with Jonathan and now turned my back against him. Father Mbaka was wining and dining with President Jonathan, the evidence is on ground. They accused him of asking for oil blocs which they refused to give. They have never accused me of that, I am not looking for oil bloc. I hope you can see the difference now.  

When you look at my prophecies since the beginning of this administration, you will see that I have been guiding the man. I prophesied in 2010 that Jonathan would become Nigeria’s President, am I not the same person that now prophesied that Jonathan will not win. What’s the difference? Is it because he doesn’t give me money? I don’t need his money but I want peace in Nigeria, I want Nigerians to enjoy dividends of democracy.